it is energy. fracking, for example, has created 1.75 million jobs. billions and billions of dollars going to the states and federal coffers. we have more energy than anybody in the world and if we, in an environmentally friendly way, acquire it, go on the federal lands, do it in the right way, we'll get that extra piece of cash, and bring manufacturing and jobs back to the united states or create them in the united states because of our energy. >> the last four years of the obama presidency was marred by not great relationships between the business community and the administration. you are one of the key faces of the business community. have you reached out to the president or has he reached out to you since his election to say let's make this four years look very different? >> just remember, my jobs to represent the business people, he's the president of the united states, we deal with each other when we should, and when we need to, and sometimes we agree, sometimes we -- >> do you have a good relationship with him? would you like a better relations